RT Article T1 Radical inclusivity and the journey on the way to somewhere [irgendwohin unterwegs] JF HTS teologiese studies VO 79 IS 2 A1 Aarde, Andries van 1951- A1 De Villiers, Pieter G. R. 1947- A2 De Villiers, Pieter G. R. 1947- LA English YR 2023 UL https://ixtheo.de/Record/1946147702 AB This article represents the genre of auto-ethnographic, autobiographical research. It consists of questions which evoke narrative responses because the questions register a life story in itself. Pieter G.R. de Villiers is the interpellator and Andries G. van Aarde the respondent. They are long-standing friends and both professors of New Testament studies. De Villiers is presently the editor at LitNet Academic (Religious Studies), and Van Aarde is the editor of HTS Theological Studies. Since 1990, De Villiers has been Executive Director of the Centre for Christian Spirituality and Ethics and has been a Research Fellow and Professor Extraordinarius in Biblical Spirituality at the Department of Old and New Testament Studies at the Faculty of Theology, University of the Free State (since 2001).Contribution: The article reflects a conversation between Andries G. van Aarde and Pieter G.R. de Villiers. It contributes to an understanding of contemporary South African church history, including the protest by academics in Afrikaans ecclesial circles against apartheid and gender injustice. K1 Contextual Theology K1 Racism and Gender Injustice K1 Tolerance K1 Politics K1 Historical Jesus K1 Canon Behind Canon K1 View of Scripture K1 Spirituality DO 10.4102/hts.v79i2.9207